tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post114316102873638842..comments2024-02-17T15:07:57.852-05:00Comments on Christian Thoughts: Should Women Be Allowed to Preach in the Church?Sonya Triggs-Whartonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09159013806978860645noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-15994188822593189842012-05-09T02:07:23.823-04:002012-05-09T02:07:23.823-04:00Peter said.....
You are very correct Armon . We me...Peter said.....<br />You are very correct Armon . We men are the product of weakness and laziness for some decades now allowing the pushy womens worldly agenda to infiltrate the church .<br />The Word is the inspired word for guidance for all time - start to finish.When strong men and women know their places we'll see some wonderful powerful life in our assemblies and homes.Stand up men - you're missing your call.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-57537068624472484932012-04-04T08:45:09.865-04:002012-04-04T08:45:09.865-04:00hie every one i hear your comments then what do us...hie every one i hear your comments then what do usay about me i was in a congregatoin that was preached by a woman i got born again i recieved christ and till now m happy as a christian enjoying goodness of our God and i feel there are many more to be saved let us not allow Luccifa decreasing our goals that we must take for Christ .remember the harvest is plenty but lebourers are fewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-89943040889711262082012-03-26T17:45:23.113-04:002012-03-26T17:45:23.113-04:00Women are not allowed to preach or pastor a church...Women are not allowed to preach or pastor a church. I won't go into detail about why I believe this as the verses that show this have been shown ad nauseum. If you are a woman and you believe, after reading scripture, that you are allowed to preach and pastor, then I don't know what to say to you. If the Bible doesn't convict you, I certainly won't convince you.<br /><br /> But the blame is not yours. It is men who have allowed this type of teaching to start and flourish. The woman is the weaker partner (1st Peter 3:7) Don't we want them to serve God? Of course!!!!! But we have let them be taught heretical teachings.... and in their desire to serve God... they have believed them. I believe that the VAST majority of women who are serving in their churches as pastors or preachers, are doing so with a right heart. But that does not make it right. And the men in this country, and starting around the world, are to blame. Men are becoming weaker because men are becoming more and more selfish.Armonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-36477282067137226452012-02-08T22:02:04.774-05:002012-02-08T22:02:04.774-05:00I am a woman and God is calling me to preach/teach...I am a woman and God is calling me to preach/teach.I had a difficult time with this forever and would not admit to it because my family does not believe in women preachers.The scripture in the Bible where it says women should be silent means that from Hebrew translation that men were more educated in the 1800's and women sit on one side of the church and men set on the other side.If the women did not understand something they would get up and go ask their husband what it meant.And it would disrupt the service so that was why Paul put that in there about Women being silent.No one can read one scripture and decide that,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-49165518739870566212012-01-10T16:31:25.653-05:002012-01-10T16:31:25.653-05:00Sorry women are not allowed to be pastors in a chu...Sorry women are not allowed to be pastors in a church......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-87481980872709059092011-12-09T15:59:45.545-05:002011-12-09T15:59:45.545-05:00Good to see a lot of interest on this subject. I f...Good to see a lot of interest on this subject. I fear that our culture has so distorted the roles of gender and caused issues like this to become issues of pride for some people. 1 Tim 2: 1-14 says what it says, and it doesn't say this is for a particular time and place, but something that Paul believed was different in the nature of man and the nature of woman. Nowhere is better or worse implied, but different. Our modern culture has taught women to feel insulted by the idea of submission (and men to fail in many other ways). I literally experienced a wonderful church torn apart over this issue, but I never saw anyone actually address the scriptures, just their opinions. I'll pose this question. If the scriptures do intend that women are not to teach, would you be offended by that? If so, you've fallen under the influence of the culture and need to prayerfully take the matter to God. I for one don't have a personal problem with a woman teaching, except that I believe the scripture admonishes against it. It's not a pride issue for me, anymore than the fact that as a male I am not called or equipped to birth children. My role is my role and that's OK. I also wholeheartedly agree with other posters admonishing against deciding which scriptures are true and which aren't and which were true but are no longer relevent. That's a slippery slope brothers and sisters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-15274670858018078272011-05-10T18:56:47.051-04:002011-05-10T18:56:47.051-04:00Please read Paul's opening words
(1 Tim 1: 1)...Please read Paul's opening words <br />(1 Tim 1: 1)<br /><br />Paul an apostle of CHRIST JESUS' BY THE COMMAND OF GOD our savior and Christ Jesus our hope.<br /><br />I do not want to be arrogant or rude but wish to share the gospel. Please don't take me the wrong way for I love you as I love myself but do not want you to be deceived!<br /><br />(1 Tim 2: 1-14) I urge you to read this yourself but will write it for you.<br /><br />A woman should learn in quietness and in full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one who deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and become a sinner.<br /><br /><br /><br />Please don't be deceived Eve' daughter. I say this not for argument but truth in Jesus' name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-37582670772439114872011-02-28T02:17:35.459-05:002011-02-28T02:17:35.459-05:00I think the argument that men preaching during bib...I think the argument that men preaching during biblical times was just because of the culture of the time is completely false. In fact God mentions leadership in many different parts of the bible in a man leading the woman. This does not mean that the man is any more important to God than woman, but has been given this role by God. Genesis 3:16 shows God's direct commandment for men to lead marriage. But this does not mean he decides every decision for himself, but does what is best for his wife.<br />Though this is based on marrital relationships, I think it can still be related to preaching. However I believe women can and do have vital roles in the church in speaking to women and in leadership of services etc. But the bible says in many places, (most have been mentioned) that men are the ones to preach, not because they are better but because that is their role. I also believe that the argument that important parts of the bible are not to be taken literally is ridiculous. This takes away from the idea that the bible is the authority and God-breathed.What would be the use of any of those supposed "figurative" parts of the bible if they were not relevant today? it would be merely history which takes away from timothy 3:16 which clearly says that "ALL scripture is God breathed and is useful for TEACHING,REBUKING and TRAINING in righteousness".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-39176908711672932442011-02-26T12:56:25.779-05:002011-02-26T12:56:25.779-05:00Wow I am truly blessed by this! I've just had ...Wow I am truly blessed by this! I've just had so much to read by all the bible references and everyone's comments helped me in the bible study I was having this morning. None1221, be richly blessed. Please also respect the contexts when you want to debate over scriptures. 2 Corinthians 8 speaks of generosity. Now building a $48 million doesn't mean one's not being generous. Some other scriptures you quoted as well we're taken out of context. You definitely need to keep your researches and study but also make sure you don't just take the word from one's box called the human mind. Even if that means yours. And also for the lady previously speaking of bringing back Eden is one's life, well I can give you many testimonies that this can happen when you are diligent at doing God's purpose for your life. And also, there's no need to go on and be mad. Without love we are nothing. My dear brother, realize that you might not hold all of the truth. We have limited peanut brains when looking at the majesty of God's truth. Everyone, let's not think we know anything and everything.<br /><br />and as many commenters mentionned: let's keep the main thing the main thing. In spite of our differences let's be ONE as Jesus prayed we'd be, ONE in HIM as He is one with the Father...<br /><br />Much love to all and have a gracious blessed day! :)GodIsLovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-44414457212946909372010-12-06T08:59:28.553-05:002010-12-06T08:59:28.553-05:00This is to the woman that is confused. The meaning...This is to the woman that is confused. The meaning of asurp is: To seize and hold (a position, office, power, etc.)My pastor, on a few ocassions has asked me to bring a message to the church on a particular day. He never does anything unless the Lord ask him too. I equip myself in the word and prayer, just as a man does and I give the word God has given me to share. You see man look at the sex of the person. God looks at the Vessel that is willing to be used by him. Going back to the meaning of usurping. By doing this, I am not seizing nor holding power or position in the church. Woman can preach in the church but she should not be pastors of Church. The man should be the overseer not the woman but if she so desires to preach, with the approval of God and pastors then why NOT!<br /><br />GOd bless you sister!!!!<br /><br />And ask God to show you the freedom of his word.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399558591935783382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-82943843211651902632010-12-05T15:05:55.016-05:002010-12-05T15:05:55.016-05:00I do believe there is a prophetic word and a preac...I do believe there is a prophetic word and a preached message. Are you talking about God giving you insight on the direction of your church through a message ( A.W. Tozer was like this as well as David Wilkerson)?<br />My suggestions;<br />Find a place to speak into womens lives. If you have a small womens group attend and pray that God would give you a place to pour out what the Lord has given you. Also find the younger women in your church and disciple them, this will help feed that flame in your bones.<br />Preach on the street before the pulpit. This is what I tell young people who tell me that they are called to preach. Seriously, if you are called to preach do it on the sidewalk or in a the slums. This fire is not for an audience but for the lost, you cannot want the pulpit you have to desire the lost. Learn the gospel and preach it in the streets.<br />Thats only my advice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-87089947618183975612010-12-05T12:28:00.081-05:002010-12-05T12:28:00.081-05:00This is so confusing...Personally, I've preach...This is so confusing...Personally, I've preached some "sermonette" type deals in my FCA, and have been told that I've done very well. I never gave any creedance (sp?) to the whole "women can't preach" thing until recently, for reasons I won't get into. I don't really feel called to preach as a vocation, just specific words when called...I fully believe in the submissive wife, and that the head pastor of a church ought to be a man...but I don't have to pastor to preach. And I'm so puzzled by Timothy...I feel like I have to speak or I'll explode while I'm waiting for someone who's male to get ahold of that particular word, but this seems to tell me so directly that I cannot. I don't mean that I make a disturbance or anything, I just have a great desire sometimes to speak. I'm really confused. I don't know if I'm misinterpretting the meaning there, or if I'm insisting on being rebellious if I insist on speaking...I so confused :( I don't want to be decieved, one way or the other :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-24963966763425172922010-10-26T13:59:52.966-04:002010-10-26T13:59:52.966-04:00What a poorly written article.What a poorly written article.madturkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525898088143225930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-15496715076557038372010-09-27T00:23:43.476-04:002010-09-27T00:23:43.476-04:00Scriptures clearly states that a Women should not ...Scriptures clearly states that a Women should not teach!<br />They should learn in submission<br /><br />1st Corithians (NKJV) 34 Let your[a] women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35 And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church. 36 Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached?<br /><br />1st Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV)."As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. Did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached?" (1 Cor. 14:33b-36 NIV).<br /><br />So in conclusion Scripture teaches us that a women can Prophecy & Pray but can not teach and from a personal point of view i feel that preaching is a form of teaching beause that person who stands in front of the pulpit is creating education and awareness of the Gospel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-43547126664407026732010-09-25T04:43:19.169-04:002010-09-25T04:43:19.169-04:00AMEN !!! TO THE LAST COMMENTER!! =]AMEN !!! TO THE LAST COMMENTER!! =]Ernest Freire Jr.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-86767556785870540742010-07-28T12:58:36.035-04:002010-07-28T12:58:36.035-04:00Wow. I find it very sad that we're all suppose...Wow. I find it very sad that we're all suppose to be Christian, yet we're arguing with each other about who's right. Yes, I think this is a very complicated topic. I just want to remind everyone that we should be believing what we read and NOT reading what we believe. The best way to find the answer to this o-so-debatable topic is to ask God to reveal it to us. This is one of those mysteries that don't make sense to us but the bible clearly states "To you it has been given to know the serets of the kingdom of God..." Luke 8:10<br /><br />So lets just ask our father for an answer as we keep our hearts, mind, and souls open to what he has to say :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-31625774404195330452010-06-17T21:27:32.981-04:002010-06-17T21:27:32.981-04:00I would think that in the year 2010 with so much o...I would think that in the year 2010 with so much opposition we have against the chuches now, the topic of if women should be allowed to preach or not seems TOO Simple-Minded!!! Mary was the first CARRIER of The WORD, and since then we have been carrying The WORD every since then. Come on people of God, the enemy has given us enough to fight, let's not fight each other.wanda burgesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17819177404195832921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-83009892847923315182010-03-12T23:00:12.371-05:002010-03-12T23:00:12.371-05:00To the last commenter. You seemed to leave your o...To the last commenter. You seemed to leave your opinion in question form. Well prophesying is very different from usurping authority over a man. I hope you understand the difference. <br /><br />There is a big difference between God using a woman to win the lost, operate in the gifts of the spirit, and pastor a church. <br />See here is the problem, people today handle the Bible out of emotions and in doing so they become reckless with their theology. You must compare your beliefs with historic christianity and most importantly the Bible.<br />Another thing, to say that this portion of scripture was written to a certain culture and that it only applies to them is flat out heresy. That is to deny the very truths in which we base our lives on (the Bible being the Word OF GOD).<br />If we were to say that then I would take a stance on Romans 1 and claim that homosexuality, witchcraft, fornication, lying and murder were all for the roman culture and have no bearing on my American Christianity.<br /><br />You must understand that in the last 60 years here in America we have traded the truth for a lie and filter the word through our culture instead of filtering our culture through the word.<br />I do not condemn women preachers but if they are usurping authority over men then they are in error.<br />I hope this was helpful to you. If you have any questions feel free to email me with any questions at honglee333@yahoo.com . It is not my goal to be confrontational but to bring the truth of Gods word out in Love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-51299482260627258862010-03-12T22:16:14.771-05:002010-03-12T22:16:14.771-05:00i am a 13 year old kid my mother is a pastor and m...i am a 13 year old kid my mother is a pastor and my grandmother but how is it that i know that in joel 2:28 it says that there will come a time when i will call my sons AND my daughters to prophesyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-41198584652402057712009-11-11T10:53:53.335-05:002009-11-11T10:53:53.335-05:00Hi Sally:
I too agree that it's what God says...Hi Sally:<br /><br />I too agree that it's what God says that matters. I also believe that it is easier for some men to believe that women are not allowed to teach because it is the safer road to take. Women have been marginalized for a very long time and at this place in our history, have finally begun to come into our own. <br /><br />I also must echo the sentiment that God has used His word (through me) to do some miraculous things, including draw people to Him and make miraculous changes in their own lives. I have seen the evidence for myself and know that God can use women equally as well as He uses men to spread His word.<br /><br />I know and have seen God use women to do His will and am thrilled that you have been able to see Him move in your own life. <br /><br />The final questions I ask to many detractors of women preachers is this: If God has not annointed women to preach the Gospel, why do so many women feel this call so strongly on their lives? What do you make of all the women preachers, pastors and ordained ministers? If this was not of God, would it not all fail?<br /><br />Please feel free to share your thoughts on this important topic...Sonya Triggs-Whartonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09159013806978860645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-46324435367343001912009-11-10T13:49:58.303-05:002009-11-10T13:49:58.303-05:00Hi Sonya,
I recently got married to a great man, ...Hi Sonya,<br /><br />I recently got married to a great man, he is a devoted Christian and we both love God alot but we've come up with issues like this that has really caused alot of indifference. You see my husband came to know Christ listening to John Macarthur's messages and I know John Macarthur is truly a man of God but most of his teachings are about the same topic being discussed. Apart from other things I do not agree but God's word says to retain whats good and push away what's bad.Many say that believing how you and I believe is unbiblical but it what God says that matters. I've had people's life changed through the messages the Lord has given me. (Men and woman, young and old)God uses whom he pleases too, who are we to limit God. I undertand if a woman goes up there and gives some giberish message and shows no example of a Godly life. Then I would say it's wrong but when a woman goes up there with an annoiting, fullfilling message then who are we to say it's not from God. <br />May God bless you sister and may his word be continual in your mouth. God is doing something amazing in my marriage in aspects to this, we still have things unclear but we are learning as the days pass by. God blessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-59560566916434388152009-07-28T13:47:19.834-04:002009-07-28T13:47:19.834-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.IHaveLegshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543445914251257906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-1760895733107483842009-07-26T09:26:56.660-04:002009-07-26T09:26:56.660-04:00I John says that God is love. So what is love? 1 C...I John says that God is love. So what is love? 1 Cor. 13 does a great job of explaining what love is and isn't. <br /><br />It is easy to discern those on here who are writing with an attitude of dissension. That makes this discussion much easier to discern because what's in a man or woman comes out of their mouths.<br /><br />Be encouraged Sonya. I am a 21 year old senior in college and I believe in the whole Gospel.<br /><br />It's understandable for those who want to keep the Word of God in pure form, but many times that's not a person's motive. Most of the people preaching against women would do the kingdom a greater service by going out into the highways and hedges, to the lost and hurting, to preach Jesus and Him crucified. <br /><br />Anyways, my grandmother is a great woman of God. She has been an evangelist since age her teenage years and has lead 1,000's to Christ. Is that sinful??? Of course not. Jesus is so in love with his creation why would he put a constraint on the ministers of the GOOD NEWS!? <br /><br />Jesus had nails driven through his hands and feed, after his back was turned into what looked like raw hamburger meat. I think after that Jesus would do whatever it takes to get the Gospel out to the lost.<br /><br />I love you all and truly hope everyone on here discerns God's Word for the purpose of falling into a deeper, more intimate relationship with our Lord and Savior.<br /><br />God Bless,<br />Joshua[JLK]https://www.blogger.com/profile/01233534052410454594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-69732263342913643462009-07-22T00:02:41.005-04:002009-07-22T00:02:41.005-04:00Jesus said, Peter do you love me? Peter said yes, ...Jesus said, Peter do you love me? Peter said yes, Lord. Jesus said "If you love me, feed my sheep." He didn't say, if you are a man and you love me feed my sheep, or if you are a woman feed my female sheep and non-male and non adult sheep. Jesus said if you love me "Feed My Sheep" well, I'm a sister in the Lord and I love Him and I KNOW He wants me to feed His sheep. Why would He put His annointing on a sister's speaking if He did not want her to speak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22904521.post-21776355600413247112009-07-07T23:48:18.393-04:002009-07-07T23:48:18.393-04:00From teaching I have heard there is no office in t...From teaching I have heard there is no office in the church that women aren't capable of such of teaching and preaching. Its that the God spells out the roles that men and have in a specific way within the church just like the roles that God defines in marriage. Yes, a woman is allowed to prophesy but that is not teaching nor preaching. I don't think the scriptures are emphasizing what women can't do, but more what men SHOULD DO in their marriages and in the church. The point is that God's role for them is in other much needed areas. I wish it wasn't that way because I don't have a strong conviction either way, but I can't deny what the scriptures do say. I know that is not popular with many churches, especially women who tend to get angry when someone says no, you can't preach or teach. They see it as anti-women and I know women pastors who come undone when they hear of a church that doesn't ordain women. But its better to follow scripture in this area.Gohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05407056763856535862noreply@blogger.com